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CRAZIEST Motorcycle Ride EVER – 30 Bikers, Non-Stop 100 MPH/ Episode 007/Part 1

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Chrissy:

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to Beer Booze and BS. We are back here in beautiful Zimmerman, Minnesota filming. Joining me today, as always, my buddy, Polly.

Paul:

Hi. Hi.

Chrissy:

And today, I'm so excited for this. We have our good friend, Craig Johnson, a local from Princeton. I guess you lived in. And he's not local anymore as he's retired, and he's been traveling the the world literally. So we're here to hear listen to your stories today and talk about what you've been up to.

Chrissy:

You guys met one time. Well, you said you met a couple times, but the one time in particular was in Iowa.

Craig:

Yes.

Chrissy:

So Mike and you and I, it was just the three of us. Right?

Craig:

Right.

Chrissy:

We did a dry run to the lumber yard, which is a strip club in Iowa. That's just a

Craig:

strip club. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yep. Super cool place.

Paul:

The test run.

Chrissy:

Yeah. It was gonna be Mike's bachelor party destination, so we all decided the three of us decided to hop on our bikes and go. And we're at what were we checking into our we were checking into our hotel.

Craig:

Right.

Chrissy:

And I noticed those two idiot or those three idiots, the Schweifel boys, John, Sean, and Paul, crossed the street at the freaking gas station. So I call them up. I'm like, hey, fucker. Where are you at?

Craig:

I'm in Iowa.

Chrissy:

I'm like he's like, I'm like, look this way or whatever. And there I am

Paul:

waiting for to your left. He's like, what the fuck?

Chrissy:

I'm like, yeah. We're gonna hotel room right here. He goes, we're spending the night here too. So they weren't in our room or in our hotel, but they did come over and ended up going out with us.

Paul:

We're like a block away. Weren't we?

Chrissy:

Or through

Paul:

that one? Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yep. So then you guys came to our balcony suite. And I hope you remember that place. I mean, this place was a shit hole.

Chrissy:

Let's just put

Craig:

it by And about got kicked out twice that time and then the other

Paul:

time. Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Got a little rowdy and a little crazy, but we ended up What? Hanging out with the joyful boys. John, their dad doesn't come with. But what do you remember about that

Craig:

Not much. Evening? I remember being completely hammered and laughing a lot. Yeah. And a lot of

Chrissy:

going to the lumberyard even? Yeah.

Craig:

I remember going.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

I don't remember a whole lot of activity happening.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

I do remember someone peeing off the balcony. Was a yeah.

Chrissy:

And then And

Craig:

it was like And everything

Paul:

was a concept. An arch.

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah. I'm

Craig:

gonna describe it. Impressive.

Paul:

Yeah. It was impressive.

Craig:

Yeah. For some reason. I remember that.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And then we went to the club, and it was this particular club is an absolute, from a business owner, genius, genius idea. So you pay $20 to get in Yep. And you bring your own alcohol.

Craig:

Yep. That's awesome.

Paul:

You'd have

Chrissy:

to die there is ice.

Craig:

Yeah. Okay?

Chrissy:

So they have bouncers there, but no bartenders. All the fucking pop and all the mix was in machines. Remember that? Yep. And so you brought your own stuff in.

Chrissy:

You had to buy their mix and their ice, but they have no fucking overhead. None. The girls, the strippers pay the place to be there. So it's like all they're paying is for bouncers to basically make sure that there's no trouble in

Craig:

Was there,

Paul:

like, three levels?

Chrissy:

There was three levels for sure.

Paul:

That place was fucking nuts. Yeah. They had a And

Chrissy:

then, like

Paul:

Shower tower.

Chrissy:

Private bathtub. Private booths in the back or whatever. But for table dances or whatever private dances. But, yeah, it was a badass place. Three levels that I remember seeing anyways.

Chrissy:

And I remember the guy walks us in. We had gone to the liquor store and bought our beer and our booze or whatever, and he put everything in on ice at our booth or whatever. And it was we got there pretty early. I remember it. It was kinda kinda quiet at first.

Chrissy:

But then I remember the Schuyffel boys. They were we were on a, I think, level three, and they were probably on level two. And we were right over them. They happened to be sitting down there, and they folded up like a fifth grader. They folded up their dollar bills.

Paul:

Origami shit. Little little

Chrissy:

triangle footballs. And they're literally I mean, they're all sniffer's roll. Like, the girls are, like, right there. And they're dancing in front of them. You know?

Chrissy:

Two good looking guys are trying to get their attention and get their money or whatever. And what did we see?

Craig:

Playing football.

Chrissy:

Literally with each other. Thought they were

Paul:

Playing goalpost. This would

Craig:

be the goalpost.

Paul:

Yeah. And then one of

Craig:

them will be holding it up and flicking.

Chrissy:

And they would laugh hysterically Yeah. At each other by doing it. I'm like, what are we witnessing here?

Paul:

In a

Craig:

strip club.

Chrissy:

In a strip club.

Craig:

Entertaining themselves. Yes. Like, they couldn't be entertained by anything else.

Chrissy:

And we're watching them from above, and we're like, look at. They're not even fucking paying attention to the girls

Paul:

at all. I don't know. There probably wasn't even girls out there. It's probably shift change. Shift change.

Paul:

There was. You guys were

Chrissy:

not even looking at that.

Paul:

You were

Chrissy:

so involved in your football dollar game. It was so funny

Paul:

to watch. Was probably a bet to see who could fucking make it so we could take the other person's money or something. Sorry. You

Chrissy:

guys were laughing hysterically doing it. And so it was

Paul:

We were laughing. Were entertained. You.

Chrissy:

Yeah. It was a good time.

Paul:

You'll have that.

Chrissy:

So, yeah, that's you said yeah. That's kinda how you guys met.

Craig:

Right. It is how

Chrissy:

we So Craig is the retired business agent for the Teamsters. And a lot of people that maybe don't know what a business agent is. Maybe try to explain what it is that the job consists of.

Craig:

We the the local that I was involved in, Local three twenty, is a public employee union k. Or or local. So we we we did all local all public employee contracts. Okay. So we would negotiate with cities, counties, anything that was municipality or, you know, public works, school bus drivers, teachers, all kinds of public, you know, public employees.

Chrissy:

Yep.

Craig:

So a business agent, we would negotiate contracts. We would handle grievances. We would try to hold the employer accountable to the contract that they signed, and just kinda maintain, that that type of a thing. So it's kind of a you know, we were kind of on the on edge with management. Yeah.

Craig:

We could say I could say I could go in and tell a boss tell my people's boss to fuck off. Yeah. They couldn't do anything to me. Yep. We they had couldn't fire me.

Craig:

They couldn't do anything. And so we were you know, we had a little bit of power that way. And so our job was just maintain the contract and make sure that the employer honored it.

Paul:

Yep. So basically fight for your fight for your

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Paul:

For the union guys. Yeah. The

Chrissy:

answer is such a broad union. Like, they cover a lot of employ like, types of employment.

Craig:

Right. There I mean,

Chrissy:

you more city, like, municipality type stuff, not, like, truck drivers.

Craig:

We did all public employees.

Chrissy:

Okay. Yeah. Got you. Yeah. So how did you get that job anyways?

Craig:

Well, I I got to the point where I was working for I worked for Hennepin County.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

And I got to my county job because of my horse experience. So I ended up working in Red Hampton County as a correctional officer. But when I first started there, I would manage the horse program. We had 40 head of horses and right downtown, basically downtown. That's crazy.

Chrissy:

Is it still there?

Craig:

Yeah. The facility is, but the horse program's gone.

Chrissy:

Oh, it's gone. Okay.

Craig:

And actually, don't know. Not sure if they're if they're housing juveniles there anymore, but but the so it was a the kids were all adjudicated. I was a rec therapist, so I handled outdoor education and recreation with the kids. And I would take them horseback riding, teach them to ride. There was a and then we'd also go up to the boundary waters and do canoeing, things like that.

Chrissy:

So you're taking kids that

Paul:

are in trouble.

Craig:

Yep. That are locked

Chrissy:

trouble that are locked up. Yeah.

Paul:

What the fuck? I wanna get in trouble and do that shit. It was weird.

Chrissy:

Try to rehabilitate them through horses.

Craig:

Right. So we were doing And wielders. We had a lot of experiential stuff. And then after about five years, though, it was the county made a decision that it was too expensive to do And that kind of so then they went to more social workers. And so, you know, I was married at the time, expecting my daughter.

Craig:

And so I, you know, I either go try and find another job in the horse business

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Craig:

Or stay there as a correctional officer. So I just stayed there as a correctional officer.

Chrissy:

K.

Craig:

And so then I became involved in my union. So I became a union steward there. And then at when I ended up getting divorced, I knew I needed to make more money, and I needed I wanted to be there for my kid. Yeah. And so I didn't wanna do shift work anymore, so I applied for at the local, I knew they were hiring.

Craig:

I applied and and I got the job.

Chrissy:

Cool. So that's not a a business agent. You get the job. It's not a voted No.

Craig:

That position. That particular local, you apply.

Paul:

You apply.

Craig:

You apply. In a lot of locals, you do are elected by your membership to be a business agent.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Exactly. I know, you know, Jim Bonhoeff's dad, Bob Bonhoeff. Do you ever hear about him? Mhmm.

Chrissy:

Yep. Cowboy Bob, they always called him. He was orious for he I bet we were talking like in the seventies Yep. When he was in, you know, like the business agent where shit was really fucking shady.

Paul:

He

Chrissy:

would tell stories of hanging people over fucking balconies with a con a buddy with a contract in their hand. He would fucking sign it

Paul:

Just some, like, movie shit.

Chrissy:

Of course, he wouldn't have. He was like, they didn't know that.

Paul:

Right.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll fucking

Paul:

sign. I mean,

Chrissy:

he like, that was numerous times. He told me one time

Craig:

or

Chrissy:

told Jim and I one time that Messbesser, you know, was their teamster attorney because he was, like, back then one of

Paul:

the top

Craig:

Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

Attorneys back then. He goes, I was bailed in and out of jail seven times in one weekend. They would throw me in jail for shit, whatever they were doing, and I bail it. Best pressure would bail me out. Yeah.

Chrissy:

He had a lot of mobster ties back then and stuff like that.

Craig:

So There's there's a quite a history in in Minneapolis about with the unions and and everything.

Chrissy:

Yeah. He had some pretty pretty amazing stories. I there's not a chance you could get away with anymore. But No. So what was what was or was there ever any intense negotiation Oh, the strikes that you ever had to deal with?

Chrissy:

What was the most?

Craig:

The the the we had the the strike we had while I was employed there was in Saint Louis County.

Chrissy:

K.

Craig:

Up near Duluth, is one of the biggest counties you know, the biggest county in in in the state. It is. And it's also one of the biggest counties in the country. Is it? So it covers a lot of it covers a And lot of your so we had public works there.

Craig:

And it was in December, November, and they voted to strike. And so we went up there and and held them, held the line and negotiated a really good contract. And we got lucky and it snowed. So they're all snowplow drivers.

Paul:

Oh. So we had so we

Craig:

kinda had to buy the balls.

Paul:

Got you buy the balls now, motherfucker. So, you

Craig:

know, the the it's one of the few times where the membership really stuck together Yep. And didn't and didn't fracture. And that's the it's the only way that's the only power you have. Absolutely.

Paul:

The only way it even works is if everyone's in. Otherwise,

Chrissy:

fucking doesn't matter. So frustrating just even with America and

Paul:

the situation

Chrissy:

that it's in right

Paul:

now. No.

Chrissy:

It's they want everyone divided.

Craig:

Yep. Yep. Yep.

Chrissy:

United, we stand. Divided, we fall. I mean, there's a reason for that saying. Yeah.

Craig:

But it was fun. I mean, we had ice people brought where I was at this one shop out in the middle of I forget the name of the little town it was, but it was just a a public workshop. Yeah. Someone brought their ice house there, we set it up with burn barrels and everything. We'd get out there, and we'd order food in.

Craig:

People would stop. Actually, people would stop and bring us casseroles and stuff. Oh, nice. And we it was, you know, and they have these satellite places all over the county with, with business agents and and teamsters and and members. And, it ended up being a successful thing.

Craig:

I mean, the snow helped. Yeah. I mean, the weather the weather helped. It's a good time

Chrissy:

to do You were never a truck driver then.

Craig:

No. I well, I was, but not

Chrissy:

You were.

Craig:

Not for a teamster.

Paul:

So I I hauled told me you were a truck driver at

Chrissy:

some point, but

Craig:

I just assumed it was a Yeah. I drove when I worked in the horse business, I hauled I rode had a big semi and a big tray horse trailer. We hauled horses all across the country.

Paul:

Okay. I see those once in a while. They got those big 53 foot

Craig:

Oh, yep.

Paul:

Fucking horse trailers.

Craig:

Like They're all lit up like a bus from behind. You think it's a bus?

Paul:

Yeah. I just seen Like, the monies or something.

Chrissy:

On Facebook, there was 17 Friesians that were rescued from some facility out east, and I was watching them film live as they're pulling into this rescue facility in Pennsylvania. So, I mean, I love the region. They're just so much yeah. They were all not so much scrawny skinny, but you could tell they were very unkempt. Yeah.

Chrissy:

And there was a lot of studs. There was a bunch of mirrors and a lot of studs, and the fucking trailers they brought them in. So, like, the stalls in these trailers were, the size of my living room.

Paul:

Oh,

Chrissy:

yeah. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I've never seen anything like that before. Yeah. So is that, like, what you were

Craig:

Yeah. We had I mean, literally

Chrissy:

They were, like, 12 I mean, probably 15 by 15 bedroom size Yeah.

Craig:

We do those install. So we could tear ours down and make and do the same thing. Yeah. Everything was otherwise, we we basically would haul 15 could haul 15 horses in it and, you know, and there'd be three facing each other on each side and a couple in the in the aisle. But they were all first class.

Chrissy:

There was 17 Friesians, and they used four trailers to haul them in. Four of those giant trailers. So they just kept piling them in and piling them in. Yeah. I was like, wow.

Chrissy:

Look at this. It's crazy.

Paul:

You see some of those fucking Logan horse trailers? They're like 350, 500 fucking thousand dollar. Yep. And like the inside is like Yeah. Immaculate.

Paul:

It looks way nicer than any house I've ever been in. It was like, goddamn. Yep.

Craig:

Oh, yeah.

Paul:

I don't live in this motherfucker. Yeah. I don't even have horses. No.

Craig:

That was that was one the funnest jobs I ever had.

Chrissy:

My god. Yeah. We'll get into that. Yep. So what was the best what what did you like best about your job as a business agent?

Chrissy:

Or even maybe the job did you like being a business agent better than actually working with the kids?

Craig:

Or Oh, it was a it was time for me to move. I mean, I was yeah. Worked twenty years with the I had worked twenty years with the with the kids. And I enjoyed that because I started off I mean, I really went to college to work in outdoor education and And so it was kind of full circle for me to be able to do that for a college.

Paul:

That would be a fun job.

Craig:

Yeah. Mean, so yeah. So that was fun, and I didn't mind that.

Chrissy:

Good at it.

Craig:

And then but then when I became a business agent, I really liked the challenge of challenge. The negotiating contracts. I mean, you're sitting across from lawyers and everything else. Yeah. Know, I'm just You actually have to kinda

Chrissy:

use your brain.

Craig:

Yeah. I imagine. So yeah. And and you're literally trying to negotiate on behalf of people. The best part of it though was I think when when someone was really getting hosed by a supervisor or by management and they lost their job and you're able to get it back.

Craig:

And the and then the opposite, the worst part of it is when you had someone that you knew was a really good person and they lost their livelihood, and an arbitrator or somebody ruled against them and you can't do anything about it.

Paul:

That was

Craig:

And it really is hard. Heartbreaking. Really is. I mean, it's you know, most of the time, it it's there should be a way of of keeping people employed. Yeah.

Craig:

You know? And management, sometimes they'd screw up. And when they screw up, they hold the line. And so they fight they'll they're trying to save their ass, You know? And so just depends on how arbitrations rule, and that's the that's the worst part of the job is someone losing their job.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Let's go back to where when you were actually working with the kids. Because I just don't know. I didn't really know that you did that. Right.

Chrissy:

So you're out trying to help these kids and guide them in the right direction. Yeah. Their main purpose.

Craig:

They were out. Yeah. They were they were adjudicated.

Chrissy:

Have you remained any relationships with any of these kids throughout the years? No. No? Did any of them, like, try to fight you?

Craig:

Oh, I had both knees replaced.

Chrissy:

From that?

Craig:

I had to yeah.

Paul:

He's just Truly pop.

Craig:

Really? Restraints and that. Yeah. You're good in yeah. There's a lot of restraints, especially in the beginning, when everyone was younger, all of us.

Craig:

We got older as we got older, we stayed away from it. We tried to avoid

Chrissy:

it. Yeah.

Craig:

But it yeah. No. There was hands on. You had to go hands on quite a bit, especially in the, you know, in the in the nineties where you had a lot more gang activity and things like that. And, you know, life was just a little bit different back then.

Craig:

And so and the kids

Paul:

were different.

Chrissy:

The gang activity ain't like it is nowadays down there.

Craig:

No. It's it's just but it's it was just they were, the kids were different back then. Yeah. You know? But there's also a lot of really good experiences when when kids made changes.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yes.

Craig:

You'd have a it's 18 year olds 18 year olds after they've been in there for twelve months or whatever, knowing that they're going back to their environment and knowing they're probably gonna fail, crying at telling them their goodbye, you know, last day there. They're like, knowing that yeah. They know that they had a taste of success in the program, but they know when they get back to the environment.

Paul:

Because they don't have the resources What's the average age

Craig:

of these kids? 16, 17? Yeah. Anywhere well, anywhere from, yeah, 13 to

Chrissy:

as young 13.

Craig:

Yeah. You had you had a few in there. And then there's

Paul:

we

Craig:

had a girls program. The girls really the girls really thrived on the with the horse program. I bet. They really did a good job there. And and then we had, what, four four or five cottages of boys.

Craig:

Okay. From different ages. We had a work program too where they they were short term. They would come in and they'd go out in the parks and cut wood and things like that. And then they'd go to school at night.

Craig:

And, and that was that was a really good program.

Chrissy:

My married first boyfriend, Colton's dad, was in my county sheriff's program.

Craig:

Yeah. That's very

Chrissy:

similar to that. Lives kind of out where I live now, but near Spectacle Lake.

Craig:

Yep.

Chrissy:

And so in the summers, it was eighth grade summer, then I go into ninth grade the following here. The freaking Hysanti County Boys Ranch boys were at that freaking lake every single day. Every single day, I was, like, hanging out with my girlfriend Lisa, and we were at the beach, like, all summer. And that's how I ended up meeting Colton's dad. But Yes.

Chrissy:

Yeah. My mom didn't guide me any better. So that's a whole another fucking story. But,

Paul:

yeah.

Chrissy:

Anyhow, so now you're how long were you a business agent?

Craig:

About ten years. Almost eleven years.

Chrissy:

Okay. Yeah. So the majority of your career was with the kids then.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. So retirement. How long have you been retired now? Is it five years?

Craig:

No. Almost four four.

Chrissy:

Four? Okay. Yeah. Was

Craig:

Yeah. Right around there.

Paul:

Sounds glorious.

Chrissy:

So did you always know what the end game was gonna be? Did you all because I feel like all of a sudden, you're like, I'm buying a trailer. I'm selling my house. I'm fucking out of here. No.

Chrissy:

Did you have that plan

Paul:

or you didn't?

Chrissy:

See, I didn't think so.

Craig:

No. I had no plan. I I figured I would die working. I did not plan on retirement. I didn't save money.

Craig:

I didn't plan on anything. I didn't I lost I lost my ass in 2008 when the when and when that fell, I went through two divorces. Mhmm. That, you know, so I had to

Chrissy:

refinance every price.

Craig:

Mhmm. I got married.

Chrissy:

Know that either.

Craig:

Yeah. And so the the so yeah. So once I once once I started, you know, working in the business age, I thought, well, maybe I could retire a little bit. You know?

Chrissy:

Because you're you're

Paul:

the potential.

Craig:

Then I assume. I just started planning a little bit, but I knew that, you know, I didn't have I wasn't didn't have the resources to go buy another house. So I I did was I worked and I saved. So I paid off my trailer, paid off my motorcycle, paid off my truck, and I was able to retire debt free.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And

Craig:

then I sold my house. I sold my

Paul:

house. Yeah.

Craig:

And took all that money still sitting in the bank. And I was earned. And then one of my pensions, the actual pension from the business agent job, no. We didn't think we were gonna get a pension from that. Central States was a big a big pension, you know, covered a lot of business, a lot of truck drivers.

Craig:

A lot of local truck drivers here, a lot of old guys here

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Craig:

Would ask me all the time, when are when

Paul:

are when are the

Craig:

teams gonna fix our pension?

Paul:

Yeah.

Craig:

Because the Central States was it was was messed up. Well, finally, it got passed in congress, and Biden actually signed it. And once he signed it, I knew I was getting a pension. That was a game changer.

Chrissy:

Good.

Craig:

Because that was with that, my Social Security and my two county pensions that I got, I'm fine.

Chrissy:

Right.

Craig:

You know? As long as I, you know, I'm fine.

Chrissy:

You seem like you're

Craig:

So I so what I did, I made sure I was debt free, I decided to live in my RV. And I did the first two years. I was pretty much down the

Chrissy:

road. Yeah. I know. We follow you. I do.

Chrissy:

I mean, I enjoy watching

Paul:

your Yeah.

Chrissy:

Adventures. Yeah.

Paul:

It's just

Chrissy:

been a plethora of them.

Craig:

I yeah. It's how I entertain myself. Yeah. Because I've I've spent so much time by myself.

Paul:

I gotta

Craig:

do something.

Chrissy:

While you're shrinking down the

Craig:

I did. Nothing. Nothing. That that's been a game changer.

Chrissy:

On your journey that you've been on of retirement and stuff, you've traveled all over the place. Yep. What's some of the favorite places that let's just say in The United States.

Craig:

Okay. One of my goals is to ride my motorcycle in every state. K. And I did that.

Chrissy:

You did it?

Craig:

Yeah. I've done I with over accumulation of years.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Craig:

Rhode Island was the was the last one. And so when I was back

Paul:

east wanted to go there.

Craig:

I when I was back east there, I spent I spent them yeah. It's I'll tell you. It's so cool. It's one of the my favorite areas.

Paul:

It's New

Craig:

England. Yeah. The motorcycle roads in Vermont

Chrissy:

I've been in

Craig:

And New Hampshire Yep. Are phenomenal.

Chrissy:

Yes.

Craig:

I mean, it's just in Maine. It's just

Chrissy:

I've not been to Maine, but I've ridden my bike to New Hampshire Yeah. And through Vermont. Vermont was

Paul:

Yes. It's

Craig:

one of my favorites, and I spent the whole summer there. My buddy

Chrissy:

yards are just

Paul:

Nevada. I

Craig:

know. My buddy has a lake place on Lake Ossipee in New Hampshire.

Paul:

Oh, okay. So I

Craig:

was able to back my fifth wheel into it, and I just stayed there. Nice. They they still had a place

Paul:

Well, I ain't leaving Motherfucker. Yeah.

Craig:

Well, he he cooked me I'll tell you a bear story. He cooked a big lobster boil for us. So we're sitting there, and I wanted to get up. That was one of my last week last couple nights there, and I wanted to get a sunrise, pictures of the sunrise. So I got up really early, and I'm sitting out there in the lobster thing that he boiled the lobster with, the water is still sitting on the Still

Chrissy:

sitting there.

Craig:

And I'm sitting there in this chair, you know, waiting, you know, and having a beer and waiting. I got my camera all red phone all ready. And I look over, there's a fucking bear literally with his nose in the pot.

Paul:

Just licking it.

Craig:

From me to the camera there. Right? From black bear. Black bear. Black bear.

Craig:

And he's just sitting there looking at me and I'm like, I'm in flip flop. And I'm like You're like, I ain't running from this

Paul:

fucking flip and flop.

Craig:

I the doc the doc was there in the pontoon. I'm like, man, I'll dive in the water and get under the pontoon, and he comes at me. So all of sudden, he comes at me.

Chrissy:

He did? I'm laughing.

Craig:

He just takes a step towards me, and I jump up, and I did one

Paul:

of his

Craig:

yelling thing. And and he took off, and I'm like, no one's gonna believe me. So I followed him. So I ran around the house. Run around the house.

Paul:

Seems like a good idea.

Craig:

I'm trying to take pictures. Oh my god. And the sucker stopped, he stood up on the tree, and I get the outline. I'm trying to get my camera up, but I'm like, oh, hit. And all of sudden, he takes off down the road.

Craig:

Well, I ran back this way, and I ran. And I got on the road, and I'm in my bare feet at this point.

Chrissy:

So much chasing the bear.

Craig:

And I take a picture, and I got the damn thing's ass just as it goes around the corner. I got a picture of it.

Paul:

So I'm like, holy

Craig:

shit, man. That was cool.

Chrissy:

Was he a pretty big size?

Paul:

Seemed big to me. I don't know. Because Yeah. We

Chrissy:

would see

Paul:

the bears

Chrissy:

out there. We've seen

Craig:

But, yeah, there's bears out there.

Chrissy:

And moose. Lots of moose.

Craig:

I've seen

Chrissy:

lots of them too in our travels out there. So what's is that you're gonna say Rhode Island then and that

Craig:

Well, I think that New New Hampshire. Yeah. And then, you know, you

Chrissy:

go to, like, a biker rally in

Craig:

New Hampshire. Laconia.

Paul:

Yeah.

Craig:

Yeah. It's one of the oldest oldest ones in the country. And it's really just a cool area. It's right on the lake. It's not it's not like a a Sturgis or Algona or anything like that.

Craig:

Yep. It's just the bikers come from all over the all over the New England area. And, it's just really a a cool route. Yeah. And there's lot of history there.

Craig:

Yeah. Here's beach and

Chrissy:

and I've definitely like I said, the road riding those back roads through Vermont and New Hampshire and stuff, it was just Phenomenal. Unbelievable. Yeah. Upstate New York too.

Craig:

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. We

Paul:

have yeah.

Chrissy:

Very much like Minnesota.

Craig:

Yep.

Chrissy:

It's hard to tell the difference actually between Upstate New York

Craig:

and

Chrissy:

Minnesota because kinda look very similar. So what has in your adventures here, what do you feel like has been the biggest surprises that you didn't foresee happening, like, on your advent your road adventures? Mhmm.

Craig:

I think self thinking think so much time to think.

Chrissy:

Self reflection?

Craig:

Self reflection. And that's kind of a it it really, you know

Chrissy:

We talk about that all the time when we're riding the shit you think about.

Craig:

Absolutely. You know,

Paul:

that's just it. Your mind just wanders. Right. And weird end up in weird fucking places in your head. Yeah.

Paul:

Absolutely. And and then

Craig:

you you you turn up the volume on spending all that time alone. Yes. I literally would go never say hi to talk to anybody. Yeah. I would turn my chair actually to avoid people walking by and camp sites.

Paul:

Yes, got But I didn't want I didn't wanna talk to anybody.

Craig:

So I said the first year, literally, pretty much in my own head. Yeah. And and so

Chrissy:

Do you ever did you ever at any point in time so I fucking think weird stupid shit all the time, but I like like, I'm I'm alone if doesn't anybody know or I'm even at this? Something even happens to me. Who's even gonna find me? Like, those types

Paul:

of thoughts. Yeah. I think about that

Chrissy:

because I spend a lot of time alone. A lot of time alone, like, well, with my dogs. And I'd say 80% of my time is alone every single day.

Craig:

Yep.

Chrissy:

So I think about if I'm home alone and I choke, I'm fucked. You know?

Paul:

I like stuff like stuff. It's

Craig:

I think about it

Paul:

all the time.

Chrissy:

Sure I chew my food good because I'm here alone. And if I'm I think about weird stuff like that. I don't know why, I I When you're alone, that's what you do.

Paul:

It's the weird shit you fucking single.

Craig:

I mean, when you go when you go days without talking to anyone

Chrissy:

To anybody.

Craig:

Yeah. It's it's pretty bizarre. And I never you know, before all my jobs, I was around people and talk all the time. Yeah. And on the road, you guys are truck driver.

Craig:

Oh, wow. You did the same thing. It's

Paul:

not as really all day, every day.

Craig:

Yeah. By yourself. And your mind goes to weird places and

Chrissy:

Do have a CB? Do do people still talk on CB radios? I do.

Craig:

I don't

Paul:

have it installed because no one really talks on Everyone's on their phones. So it's like I I bet there's, like, maybe one to 3% of the people, truck drivers nowadays

Chrissy:

Did you ever even have a CB handle?

Paul:

Like like a name?

Craig:

Yeah. Yeah.

Paul:

I've had a couple like hot hot rod and road hammer and shit like that. But

Chrissy:

My dad's was the time bomb. Yeah. The breaker breaker. Anybody out there is the time bomb. Fucking everybody knew who he was.

Chrissy:

He we had a home base CD when we were kids.

Paul:

Yeah. Fucking around on those things. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. We were like 12

Paul:

year old girls. John and I used to do we used to have those, like, big ass walkie talkies, and you'd randomly get because we were close enough to the highway, so you'd randomly get people.

Craig:

Oh, back in the when when I was driving in in in the end of in the eighties. They were they were all the time.

Paul:

Yeah. Even even like when I

Chrissy:

eighties and eighties. Yeah. Yeah.

Paul:

Even when I first started driving, o six, I first started driving. And it's like, there was, I would say 90% of the people back then still had them. It's like now, there's like two to 3%. Like, no one has them.

Chrissy:

You don't see it in

Paul:

the same don't thing have them on, and Right. The only time they do turn them on is if they fucking roll up on stop traffic and they're like, alright. What the fuck's going on now?

Craig:

Right. Right.

Paul:

Like, still still on. You would've known. Stop.

Chrissy:

I used to love those.

Paul:

They were

Craig:

crazy in the South, though.

Paul:

Oh, yeah.

Craig:

That's where I really

Paul:

They they are

Craig:

Late at night, you'd be driving.

Paul:

Definitely more predominant down there. Were they? Oh, for sure. Yeah. When I ran extra board, anytime you get past, like, Indianapolis, it seemed like that was the line.

Paul:

It's like any anywhere past that, it's like everyone had a CV.

Chrissy:

Do you have any regrets not having like a stick building to go back to anymore?

Craig:

No. None? No. That's mean, I've got No. I yeah.

Craig:

I mean, I've got I've got actually my mom's house is

Chrissy:

my biggest living the the ideal dream that I see myself living in

Craig:

Right.

Paul:

Someday. Just fucking come

Chrissy:

and go and probably always have to have a home base,

Paul:

like house with some sort. But,

Chrissy:

you know, like, I would just these are the things that I do think about, you know, like, I could do that. I think I think I could size down, like, big time, have no debt, and that's the biggest thing is before you do it, get rid of all your debt. You can live like

Craig:

Whatever. I mean, I live check to check my whole life. Yeah. And that's that's what I'm doing now.

Paul:

Yeah. And

Craig:

and, you know, now, though I know my checks aren't gonna stop. Yeah. You know, they they they come and Yeah.

Paul:

You know, I gotta worry.

Craig:

Have to worry hurt or something.

Paul:

It's still gonna come. Take control

Craig:

of what my nut is and they make sure

Paul:

that You just live within your means. You're fine

Chrissy:

with all don't just

Craig:

do the

Chrissy:

government and spend, spend, spend.

Craig:

Right. No. That's how

Chrissy:

fucking house?

Craig:

Well, do that when I'm with Nate, then cheers. Playing playing fucking pool task. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I'm making it ring. I'm making it ring. To get forgiven, though. You know?

Craig:

But it's yeah. It's you just stay within your means, but and I'm fortunate that I got the pensions and

Paul:

Yeah.

Craig:

And that. And

Chrissy:

I just

Craig:

But but I didn't I never start I never started even thinking about mean, in horse business, in horse business, didn't have pensions. Just you were working

Chrissy:

You were a cowboy, basically.

Craig:

That's all you did was Right. You know, you you didn't have bad I didn't have health insurance until I worked for the start working for the county.

Chrissy:

Crazy?

Paul:

Yeah. Fuck. I started my retirement when I was 14.

Chrissy:

You're gonna be sick.

Paul:

My my old man, when I when I got my Smart. First Well, I wasn't, but my old man's like, hey. He's like, you wanna be a millionaire when you retire? I'm like, fuck. Yes.

Paul:

That sounds awesome. And he's like, save just 10% of everything you ever make. So like when I got a job, 14, he would take 10%. I was pissed. I'm like, that's my money.

Paul:

He's like, you'll thank me later. Your dad's great. Yeah. Took, like my checks were only, you know, like maybe a $150. So you take like, what, $15?

Paul:

Yeah. And it's like, at that age, I was 14. I'm like, no. That's like

Chrissy:

It's such

Paul:

a fucking good Subway meals. I'm like, you can't have that. So It is such

Chrissy:

a good habit to keep.

Craig:

Yeah. Is. It's like It is.

Paul:

If you can groom your kid in the beginning, they are gonna stick Believe with that me, I've tried. And if you can stick with it, it's like, I'm 42. I have house paid a decent amount in April. All my toys are paid. All my vehicles are paid.

Craig:

That's awesome.

Paul:

And it's like, if I just keep status quo Yeah. I give I should be able to do exactly what you would do. Just wanna buy a fucking Peterbilt, neon green and black with a big Yeah. Fucking toy hauler.

Craig:

There you

Paul:

go. And just fucking cruise the countryside, throwing my bikes in the back, whatever other toys and Yep.

Chrissy:

See you doing that. Hopefully, we're doing it too.

Craig:

That's a I I I

Paul:

got eighteen more fucking years. I don't know if I can wake up.

Chrissy:

Do you

Paul:

though? Nineteen.

Chrissy:

You don't have to. You don't have to work that long.

Paul:

I figure I could probably

Chrissy:

already, like, pretty set now.

Paul:

I figure I could easily retire when I'm 50. If I if I eight more years doing it. I know. But if I if I worked on

Chrissy:

doing it.

Paul:

If I work if I work till I'm 60, I can stay on Estes' health care.

Chrissy:

Health care.

Paul:

And then I have health And that's care

Chrissy:

the biggest thing.

Paul:

Right? Health care will Six wreck you. Yep. Right. And especially when you're up at that age, it's like, dude, it it could happen so fast.

Paul:

A shoulder or this and that, a hip, fucking

Chrissy:

It's kind of the same

Craig:

See, I'll tell you. If if you worked till you're 60, from 60 on, life is pretty good. Yeah. That's It's not that. It's really you know, you think when you're 50, you think sixty's old.

Paul:

I know.

Craig:

Now that I'm 68 gonna be 68 in August. I'm like

Chrissy:

That's crazy.

Paul:

I'm like, hell. How old do

Craig:

you actually feel? Right now? Yeah. I probably feel 50.

Paul:

K. Okay.

Craig:

That's I mean, there's some there's some I mean, mentally I mentally, I feel 10.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah. See, that's We know

Craig:

that's that. You

Paul:

guys are feeling my life. I still yeah. I'm stuck in that. I don't think I'm ever gonna leave that spot. Double digit right there at 10.

Paul:

Yeah. Right?

Chrissy:

Guys ever do.

Craig:

You know? But but I I got I mean, I I got heavy. I was last year, I was shooting with shirt with Sparky over here. I didn't even wanna go. I wanna go out the chair.

Chrissy:

Wear belt just that

Craig:

I felt in my in COVID and then COVID hit, and then it was like, you know, I got depressed and everything else.

Paul:

And that just took double steps down.

Craig:

Yeah. Then took me a year on the road, and then that's when I started the reflection and all that. And I've started pulling myself out, and I and I've made the change. Fucking badass. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Hell, Almost Hell, yeah. Yeah.

Craig:

Almost a 108 165 pounds.

Chrissy:

What? You've lost?

Craig:

I was three I was three over three fifty.

Paul:

No way. Really? Mhmm.

Craig:

I don't

Paul:

remember you being that big.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I don't either. Yeah. Not that like, that's big. Yeah.

Chrissy:

So I

Paul:

How much easier it is to walk around losing a 160 fucking a

Craig:

whole life change.

Paul:

Tickle ball. I play every day.

Craig:

Yeah. I I finally found my competitive juices again.

Paul:

So Oh, yeah.

Craig:

I I'm I've yeah. You know? Working out. Walk every morning. You know?

Chrissy:

That's good. Yeah. And your knees are good.

Paul:

Yeah. I

Craig:

had both of I had both replaced. So

Paul:

I'm nice.

Chrissy:

Did that stem from the job with the kids? Yeah.

Paul:

I had

Craig:

It really did.

Chrissy:

I figured it just was age and heaviness.

Craig:

No. It was

Chrissy:

I mean, that didn't help, obviously.

Craig:

No. Well, riding horses didn't help and all. I mean, they were pretty wore out.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Craig:

But, yeah, I had to have I had knee knee replacement was based on on on injuries that I had from surgeries that I had because of of work. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Cool. Well, let's start our first drink. What do we have here? We are doing Noka. It's two turnts tea.

Chrissy:

This is their new flavor called the Bayou Berry Blast. Oh, you're gonna have to go in there. So tell us what we have here. So it's 5% alcohol. 12 packs.

Chrissy:

It comes in 12 packs, 12 ounce cans, eighteen forty nine. I went to their website, and I got some information. It's the they are calling it the world's first non carbonated

Paul:

Oh, boy.

Chrissy:

Foozy brand. Yes. But I feel like Foozy brand. So it was created by three friends that hated being bloated, hated the heartburn and acid reflux that they would get from, like, other brands, like Yeah. Lemonade, smart enough.

Chrissy:

So they tried to make a tasty beverage without the carbonation, which is

Paul:

That can looks bad.

Chrissy:

No no car, no carbonation. That's what I learned that.

Paul:

So we're thinking of it around. Motherfuckers.

Chrissy:

There there's other flavors too. But this one has blackberries, raspberries, and blueberries.

Paul:

It's got electrolytes in it?

Chrissy:

Tea too.

Paul:

No bubbles.

Chrissy:

No bubbles, Polly. It's the only one of the no pick 12 packs that's not a variety. So this, you can just get this flavor Yep. It by itself.

Paul:

You gotta shake it?

Chrissy:

Is that it? 100 calories, 5%.

Craig:

Oh, it's a tea.

Chrissy:

It's a tea. Made

Paul:

Made with

Chrissy:

real and blueberries.

Paul:

Smells good. Salute. Salute.

Chrissy:

That's definitely a tea. It's pretty good.

Paul:

Oh my god. That's so smooth. You don't taste any of it.

Craig:

It tastes like a

Paul:

Yeah. Right. Is there even alcohol in this?

Chrissy:

So what's in it for brewers? Is it vodka or is it

Paul:

don't know. But it's 5%. It tastes delicious.

Chrissy:

Oh, it's beer. IRG IRG beer. So it's not a booze. It's definitely a beer.

Paul:

Oh, this is good.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I figured you would

Craig:

like over ice?

Chrissy:

Yeah. Over ice, definitely. Yeah. It's pretty good.

Paul:

Larry, you don't taste any alcohol. Y'all, it tastes like a fucking Snapple. It does. I got cheese. I'll just like milk weight to it.

Paul:

No. No. Nothing.

Craig:

None. That's that's alright.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And it's 5%. And Chrissy likes it? It's not bad.

Paul:

Right?

Chrissy:

It's not bad.

Paul:

I could pound about fucking 30 of them.

Chrissy:

And as long as you don't get that fucking bloated feeling afterwards, that's my whole thing. Like, I love Mike's Hard Lemonade, but I can literally drink probably not even two anymore. Two is always like my max, and then you're just feeling like a whale. Do you get that whey from all sorts

Craig:

of things?

Paul:

I don't I don't know

Craig:

why I don't. I don't drink any of that stuff.

Paul:

I can drink like

Chrissy:

Then why don't you like the bubbles? I thought it was because it affects your stomach.

Craig:

No. I just I don't like the bubbles. Yeah. I don't like that. I like

Paul:

the carbonation. Like the way it makes you burp. So

Chrissy:

what do you give that? Would you rate that a 10? A nine eight? One out of 10, what are you?

Craig:

I'm a five.

Chrissy:

A five? Okay. Yeah. Not your jam?

Paul:

I don't know. Eight or nine. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I think I'm probably an eight

Paul:

for me. It's delicious.

Chrissy:

And I'm not even a

Craig:

tea drinker.

Paul:

Super. I'm not a big fan of well, I like peach tea, like sweet stuff. Right? So

Chrissy:

I don't even like that.

Paul:

But that's not even that sweet. So That wasn't sweet. You could, fuck. You could drink the hell out of those things.

Chrissy:

And then, like I said, it's 5% alcohol, so it's decent. Got alcohol in it. You just don't Alright.

Craig:

I'll give it a six. You

Paul:

don't have to.

Chrissy:

We're we're

Paul:

Well, it's hard to raid raid shit because you don't know, like, what everything else tastes like. Right. Like, last week, shit, we had that fucking what was that? That leg spreader? Oh my god.

Chrissy:

Oh god. That was with Renee. That was a month ago.

Paul:

That shit, man. That shit'll fucking wreck you.

Chrissy:

Yeah. That was good. Or that margarita.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

That fucking spicy margarita that Shannon made.

Paul:

Yeah. That's that's the one I'm talking

Chrissy:

about. Oh, yeah.

Paul:

That one.

Chrissy:

I'm excited for the last drink.

Paul:

The jolly ranch one? Awesome.

Chrissy:

So biker, as we all know, you have two bikes. Have you always had two bikes?

Craig:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

You have? So that was the what is the other I know you have a road glide.

Paul:

Yep. But what's the other one

Craig:

that you have? It's a was a FXDP, the police defender.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

So when I got it, it had all the cop stuff on it. It was white.

Chrissy:

And Oh, yeah.

Craig:

I stripped it down. Stripped it down.

Chrissy:

Is that what you

Paul:

had first before the road glide?

Craig:

Before the road glide.

Chrissy:

Yes. Because I remember when you got road glide.

Craig:

Yeah. Well, I've got three road glides.

Chrissy:

Oh, you have? Oh. Yeah. What do you have?

Craig:

I got a I've got Always

Chrissy:

black ones?

Craig:

I yeah. Now I've got a CVO on eight my eight piece.

Paul:

Oh, damn, Gina. Yeah. Yeah. Like it. Moving up to the big leagues.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

So you've I know you've go to Sturgis a lot, and you've other and you've been to other biker events. What's prob what's your favorite favorite biker event that you've ever been to ever?

Craig:

Yeah. Yes. I you kinda pre warned me on that question. So I've been thinking about it. Yeah.

Craig:

And I think they're also they're they're something offer different. Offer something different. Yeah. I mean, whether it's the chili feed here, you know, or elsewhere Oh

Paul:

my god. Yeah.

Craig:

Or Algona or a big one like Sturgis or Daytona.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Craig:

But I think when it comes down to it, it's getting back together with people

Chrissy:

People. Yeah.

Craig:

That I don't see all the time.

Chrissy:

Which is probably Laconia.

Craig:

Laconia is one. Sturgis is another. Like, when I pop into I'm going through Sturgis after I leave here.

Chrissy:

Yep.

Craig:

So but I'm gonna so I'm really going to just see people.

Paul:

Yeah.

Craig:

Not for the not for the bike.

Chrissy:

Once you've been to Sturgis as many times as we all

Craig:

have Right.

Paul:

Like So it's

Chrissy:

it's just

Paul:

about the people.

Chrissy:

Kind of a chore.

Paul:

Yeah. I like and hang on party.

Chrissy:

To go for the ride. Yeah. Out there. Like, the back roads. So I don't fucking ride 90.

Chrissy:

My favorite part

Paul:

of I hate that.

Chrissy:

You'd like to ride 90?

Paul:

Yeah, dude. I don't know. Like, my old man is the same way. He loves to go through every little dumb fucking 30 mile an hour fucking town. Got

Chrissy:

Two twelves Two twelves

Paul:

of that. The 12. Can't stand

Craig:

it, I like bombing on

Paul:

the highway. Yes. Me too. I wanna fucking Yeah. Hammer down, get out there, and then set up shop, and fucking sit and drink and party.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I like the experience of riding Nope. Like, small towns and stuff like that. It's just what we what I've always done. So I hate I hate 90.

Chrissy:

Like, it's bumpy, and it's windy, and I feel like every time I've ridden it, I'm riding like this because it's weird people asking me.

Paul:

Yeah. There is that half

Chrissy:

the time.

Craig:

It does get interesting.

Chrissy:

Have had a good experience on 90, and, you nobody knows how to fucking drive.

Paul:

There is that. If

Chrissy:

I'm if I'm on a time frame, sure. Yeah. Typically, I mean, we make it out there in a day.

Paul:

See, that's that's kinda how it was for us. Like, when we were going out, we weren't gonna be out. Like, I'm assuming when you go out, you're out there for, a week or maybe two.

Chrissy:

Mike and I have gone out there together. I mean, yeah, I used to be out there for, you know

Paul:

Yeah. A week. Yeah.

Chrissy:

But Towards the end when Jim was still alive, we would stay in Deadwood all the time in a hotel with Elmer and Sue

Paul:

Yep.

Chrissy:

And. Mike and I have literally left on a Friday, been home by Sunday afternoon.

Paul:

Yeah. So

Chrissy:

out there, get a room and peer Yeah. Get to Sturgis in the morning, get our shirts, say hello to

Paul:

some people. Yep. And then bomb back. Go to the dungeon bomb

Chrissy:

is my favorite. Yep. Leave my dollar and then Yep. That's fun too. I like Yeah.

Paul:

I do. Well, see, and that's when when, like, last time Sean and I and dad went out, we weren't out there that long. Yeah. So it's like, I don't wanna waste half the day trailing through all these small I'm like, let's just get out there and then let's enjoy our time out there, and then we can bomb back or take our time coming back.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And either way, I mean, it's just depends on what

Paul:

I don't know. Honestly, it doesn't matter how long, I guess. I just like getting on the highway and just losing myself and fucking just going.

Craig:

Yeah. Yeah. I that's kinda how I am now. Yeah. Clicking my I spend so much time on back roads anyways.

Paul:

Yeah. We're all

Craig:

over the place.

Paul:

Yep. Right.

Chrissy:

So speaking of going on back roads, so you've traveled all over. What is as because we're all bikers here. What is one road or one area that you would recommend for every biker to experience at one

Paul:

point? Once.

Craig:

I have two. K. One is the whole area where the five parks are.

Chrissy:

What's this? Zion. Oh, yep. And I've been

Paul:

through there.

Craig:

There's there's so many Highway 89191. There's just a ton of them. If you to take the time to check them all out.

Chrissy:

Utah is probably

Paul:

one of my favorite states.

Craig:

Yeah. It's absolutely phenomenal. Yeah. It's different every time, whether you go in the morning with the sun coming up, it's like shadows are different. The it's it's different color at night, the evening.

Craig:

The time of year, it's different. It's always just unbelievable. And then another another road, I mean, I gotta go back to to my roots in California, Mulholland Highway, Pacific Coast Highway. And Is

Chrissy:

that Highway 2?

Craig:

At Highway 1.

Paul:

Highway 1

Craig:

Yep. Or And then, you know, then going up through Mammoth Lakes, all in Yosemite, all that area in the Sierra. So I think those are my favorite areas.

Chrissy:

So not necessarily out east then.

Craig:

It's No. I mean, I I I already gave kudos to Vermont. Yeah. So Yep. And I really enjoy it.

Chrissy:

Yep. So if you're a guy is going for

Craig:

If someone has time Yep.

Chrissy:

On a bike trip and you've been all over, you're gonna say the the go there.

Craig:

I'd say you I'd say, yeah, Utah Utah area. And or the Coast Highway.

Paul:

Yeah.

Craig:

Or California.

Chrissy:

And Idaho too.

Craig:

Idaho is that's see, that's another I spent I'm I'm heading back. This trip here, I'm gonna go I'm going to Teton National Forest.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

And I'm staying in Oh, I'm staying in the middle Dubois Dubois, Wyoming. Mhmm. Going in Dubois, Wyoming for a week, and then I'm going over to Victor, Idaho for a week, and I'm going to ride all through roads that I used to I guess I went to school in Idaho, and I worked in Idaho. So I'm going to some kind of a nostalgic road trip on the bike, places that I haven't seen on the bike yet.

Paul:

Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

Chrissy:

That'll be fun.

Craig:

Idaho. Well, I'll

Chrissy:

journey along with you through Facebook. The magic of Facebook.

Craig:

I got

Paul:

a buddy who lives out in Pocatello, Idaho.

Craig:

So I'm I'm I'm visiting this old a business old guy that I met in Arizona in Perth right there near Idaho Falls.

Paul:

Oh, no shit. Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

Paul:

We go out there snowmobiling too. Like, what is that? Fucking I can't think of it. Where I go every year snowmobiling. Fuck.

Paul:

No. Whatever. I can't remember. Cody? Cool story.

Craig:

No. It's Oh, in Idaho? Yeah. Oh, it's Island Park.

Paul:

Yeah. There you go. Fuck. Why couldn't I think of it? I've been there like the last ten years of my life.

Chrissy:

That's where you snowmobile?

Paul:

Yeah. It's awesome. Oh, dude. Island That's Sick.

Craig:

Right? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's phenomenal.

Paul:

Yeah. Last time I went there, I bombed it was my buddy Roger, he's the one that lives in Pocatello. He calls me up. He's like, hey. He's like, we're getting fucking dumped on.

Paul:

He's like, gotta get out of here. I'm like, alright. So called off work, whatever. I'm like, gosh. FMLA, I can't make it.

Paul:

Whatever. I'm out. Throw the sled in the back of the truck, and it's like my dad's truck who gave me things got 400,000 miles in o two. Right? I just throw it.

Paul:

I didn't give a shit. It's fucking bombed out there, made it in a day, stayed in a hotel. We got there. I got there at like midnight. Right?

Paul:

I'm just after I got off work, I like drove there. So I'm balls fucking tired, and I parked my truck and then I watched this guy. There's this this is the year was this like two, three years ago when we got like just fucking retarded amounts of snow. Yeah. Like, it was above their sheds and houses and shit, and this guy's trying to take his 24 foot trailer around in the parking lot, and he goes around and I'm like, I'm standing back here.

Paul:

I'm kinda just I'm like like, this no. Nope. Nope. And then his trailer's just like right in the snowbank. Oh, god.

Paul:

Stuck. So I ended up fucking helping that guy out, get out. But like I stayed in this hotel right on the river. I wake up the next morning, it's fucking dump and snow. Look out, and there's, like, a moose sitting in the in this river right out my window.

Paul:

I'm like, dude, how fucking sick is this?

Craig:

I'm like,

Paul:

why don't I live out here?

Craig:

Was that two years ago? Yeah. I think two years ago. I was in McCall, Idaho, and I park in my RV with snow Yeah. High on both sides.

Craig:

Yeah. And then You didn't It was it was unbelievable how much snow was up there.

Chrissy:

I got So that's probably an unseasonable

Paul:

amount, or does that work? Yeah. Yeah.

Craig:

I know it was in April.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah. So they got I think in that store. That's actually when I went out to, like so this is just like, we go to one of Roger's buddies' place. He lives, like, literally from the trailhead in Island Park.

Paul:

He lives, like, not even a mile, and there's this it's just a dirt road that goes back to his cabin, and he's got a what is it? A f two fifty Super Duty. Right? Yeah. In the the What?

Paul:

You guys are talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Island Park.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, like, the the the path that they plowed, the on the sides was as as high as the fucking trailer in the top of his Super Duty.

Paul:

Like, it was that deep. Like, you you they he this dude has a tractor with this big ass fucking I don't know. It's like 12 foot wide, eight foot wide snow plow. And he's gotta go up and down with it just to get through that fucking

Chrissy:

That

Paul:

deal. Yeah. It was Jeez. And it's like like I said, I've been going out there for ten years, and I've never seen anything any snow anywhere near. It was just the most insane amount of snow.

Craig:

That way, it was it was crazy.

Paul:

Yeah. It was so fun.

Chrissy:

So I was gonna say because if you're because you don't normally camp and snow

Craig:

obviously in

Chrissy:

your motor home because we know that Right.

Paul:

You don't

Chrissy:

stay all that warm.

Craig:

No. And I'd started off I'd started off, going south, basically up to Oregon and Idaho, all that area. And then I needed to start heading towards because that's the year I went to Calgary. So I was headed up. That's why I headed up there.

Craig:

My sister lives in McCall, Idaho, so I stayed I I got a place to stay there at the in the RV place. Oh, yeah. That's just a nice area to get up to McCall. And then I went up to the Panhandle and I stayed on on the Montana side of Bonners Ferry, which is the the skinny part of Idaho.

Paul:

Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Craig:

And so halfway between there and Glacier. I stayed in

Chrissy:

this I've to Glacier.

Craig:

Stayed in this campsite there on the Cahoonie River. That's a neat area. Is it? Yeah. So You've been out.

Craig:

Notes.

Chrissy:

I would be like yeah.

Paul:

Yeah. My grandparents, he used to live, about forty five minutes from Coeur D'Alene.

Craig:

Yeah. That's right. Brooklyn, that area.

Paul:

Yeah. It's in

Craig:

Coeur D'Alene. Oh, that's a really cool area.

Paul:

I mean gorgeous. Right on the river. Yep. Oh my god.

Craig:

It's beautiful.

Chrissy:

Yeah. The United States, I mean

Craig:

You can't be

Paul:

a So diverse. Like,

Chrissy:

probably say I've not been everywhere in the world, but, I mean, there's some definite beautiful

Craig:

scenery in this country.

Paul:

Absolutely. They've gotten it all. Yep.

Chrissy:

And, like, you go to, like, metropolitan areas and it's just crime and filth and

Paul:

dirty and it's like,

Chrissy:

yeah, trash everywhere and now homeless people everywhere. Yep. Which is very sad.

Craig:

Everywhere.

Chrissy:

Yep. But then you can go, like, out there and you won't see a person or a car

Paul:

Yeah. Days.

Chrissy:

Days. Sometimes.

Paul:

Yeah. Absolutely.

Chrissy:

It's like, oh god. I forget, like, this is how it actually really is, you know, in other areas. So what's your wildest biker stories from your travels? Do you have anything that

Craig:

I think one of the wildest was riding home from his bachelor party.

Paul:

I mean, I'm telling you.

Chrissy:

She went fucking We 100 miles all the way from DeMarco.

Craig:

All the way. There was All way. Was it

Paul:

Just hammer down. Yeah. I mean, it

Craig:

was splitting lanes. It was shoulders. There was not a car or truck in our gonna get in our way. We ended up being in about two or three different groups. And it was I mean, all of a sudden, we're Downtown Minneapolis because we

Paul:

kept missing the turn. I was I think I

Craig:

was with Jeff. I was. I was with Jeff, but I can't remember who else I was with. But there's, like end up with three of us, And all of a sudden, we're like, oh, fuck. We're downtown.

Craig:

So then we already have got back on the Highway 94, and then we ended up meeting meeting Mike and a

Paul:

couple other guys as they're getting off in Rogers.

Craig:

And then we went over then we all went to Cowboy Jets.

Paul:

Oh, yes. That was I mean, that's just one

Craig:

of the one time that I just that always stands out is just nobody gave a crap about cops.

Paul:

Zero fucks given.

Craig:

Absolutely didn't give a shit about nothing.

Paul:

Yeah. That was over. Breaking the law. Breaking over. Hurting.

Chrissy:

Probably still drunk. Absolutely.

Paul:

It was Well, those are some of the best rides when you're kinda like hungover, kinda like, just don't give a fuck. You're like, just get up. Get Walk out of my way. Yeah.

Craig:

And no and that you know, it's just there's just a lot of those types of things. That makes a that makes all the

Paul:

difference. But

Craig:

the there you know, the whole I met a whole group of people in Sturgis, and we were on we've done several trips together. We did Tennessee. We rented houses in Tennessee, a bunch of us. And then we've we did, over in the Wild West.

Chrissy:

Are these people that you didn't know before

Craig:

Didn't know.

Chrissy:

Met in Sturgis?

Craig:

Didn't know. We all met online. Oh. Nice. Okay.

Craig:

Interesting. We all met online on sturgis.com trying to check out different Okay. And so we all just spent one whole six or seven months, you know, giving each other shit and getting to know each And other on then we all met up at Buffalo We met up at the Buffalo Chip. Chip, and there was a big group. And that was a that was part of the big group.

Craig:

And then we came a small group that and we that smaller group has stuck together, you know, for all these years since since 02/2006. Oh, wow. Damn. That is awesome. We've gone on bike trips together.

Craig:

We've gone on bike trips together. Not everybody's made all of them. We've done we've done Thunder Bay. We've done met up in Canada twice. We've met up in, like I said, Tennessee.

Craig:

Then we did a big West trip, and then we've met at Sturgis several times.

Paul:

So you got guys from all over?

Craig:

With New Hampshire was a group of people with with those guys.

Chrissy:

So where are they most of them from?

Paul:

Yeah. Were all over.

Craig:

You got So that's

Paul:

why you did a couple in Canada

Craig:

or something Canadians. A lot of a lot of a lot of guys from Canada on all ends of Canada.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

Texas, Nebraska, South Dakota, New Hampshire, New Orleans. Fuck. They're all over. Texas.

Paul:

They're all respect that.

Craig:

Yeah. Over. Yeah. All over. Cool.

Craig:

Yeah. And then How

Chrissy:

many is there?

Craig:

20? Right now, there's probably of a core people that I still keep in contact with, there's probably close to 20.

Paul:

Wow.

Craig:

That's pretty cool. And then out of that 20, probably 10 that are that

Chrissy:

All men?

Craig:

Or is it women too? Women too. Yeah. No. It's a mixed mixed group of people from all over.

Craig:

Sweet. And that's one the guy I went to Europe with was from that group. He was a business agent. It was an ironworker. And so we had something in common.

Craig:

We met at Sturgis. We met online, and we met at Sturgis. And yeah.

Chrissy:

Look at you. I'm gonna bounce back here a little bit. I heard you were a Mormon.

Paul:

Yeah. Yep.

Chrissy:

Clearly, you don't

Paul:

follow the Mormon.

Craig:

I'm not practice I don't practice any type of religion.

Chrissy:

Right.

Paul:

Right.

Chrissy:

I don't either. I don't either. I have faith.

Paul:

But I

Craig:

don't Exactly.

Paul:

That's how I

Chrissy:

I believe I've always said with kind of what Jesse Ventura came out with that organized religions for weak minded people. Do you guys remember when he said that? I've always agreed this

Paul:

to that,

Chrissy:

but anyway

Craig:

Yeah. I mean

Chrissy:

Mom is I'm assuming your mom's a Mormon?

Craig:

Yep.

Chrissy:

She still practice it? Yep. She does. Okay.

Craig:

She goes to church.

Chrissy:

Yeah. So what at what age so you were born into it. Yep. How now you talk about and there's people that talk about Mormons being a cult and stuff like that. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I was baptized in Mormon. Yeah. And did you know that?

Craig:

I did not know

Paul:

that. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I was 13, Kind of forced into it by my parents at 13.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

And practiced it for a few years. It was more of a nostalgia thing, I think, for my mom to get my dad to quit drinking. Mhmm. So they found some Mormons, local Mormon family, and that kind of introduced us Yep. Into it.

Chrissy:

And, like, they have that, what do they call? We're the ones that come

Paul:

to the house.

Chrissy:

Missionaries. The missionaries. They still come to my house. They they are

Paul:

a cult. They will not leave me alone. They got two fucking unlock. Cards. Guys, I

Chrissy:

don't even know who these people are, but I'm in their fucking rotary.

Paul:

How do you still have my address? Oh, they

Craig:

I know. They find yeah.

Chrissy:

They find me. I'm like, go visit my mom.

Paul:

Like, she's the one that

Chrissy:

got me into this

Paul:

shit. Go

Chrissy:

and I even tell them that. Yeah. Here's this is where she's at. She's in the Hope River. She would enjoy, actually.

Paul:

Right? She is so much. Sharing. Yeah. Alright.

Paul:

No fun.

Chrissy:

So, yeah, I've never we went to the Mormon church here in Princeton for about three years. Not religious.

Craig:

Well, that's not that's how you got your is your name and address is in is still probably on record.

Chrissy:

But I've moved. I mean Yeah. I mean, I was 13 at the time. So but, yeah, they they don't follow my brother doesn't get it. My sister doesn't get

Paul:

it. Why are they

Chrissy:

fucking they don't follow my mom, which is her big idea.

Paul:

Oh, funny. That's funny.

Craig:

Yeah. They don't follow me.

Chrissy:

That's and your mom is still in the church.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

So I watch desperate not desperate housing. The Housewives of Salt

Craig:

Lake Yeah.

Chrissy:

Have you seen it?

Craig:

I've heard about it. I don't none of that. Don't watch

Chrissy:

it. Girls are like well, one wrote a book.

Paul:

It was a

Chrissy:

best seller called The Bad Mormon. She's basically, these women, they get ostracized from this church, the Mormon church. Like, if they do anything wrong, like, I don't know, have an affair or Yeah. You know, even divorce. Like, you are, like, like, the worst woman on the planet if you wanna divorce your husband, basically.

Chrissy:

That's how I understand it from their perspective.

Craig:

They're yeah. They're jaded.

Chrissy:

They're jaded. Yeah.

Craig:

It's not that bad. I've been divorced twice.

Chrissy:

But you don't practice it.

Craig:

No. But I I

Paul:

because your

Craig:

mom If I

Paul:

go to your mom, go divorced?

Craig:

I'll go no. I go to church with my mom once in a while Yeah. Just because she likes the company.

Paul:

Yeah.

Craig:

And she likes it.

Paul:

And you

Chrissy:

go to the Mormon church.

Craig:

Yeah. Don't bother me.

Paul:

Yeah. I go

Craig:

to I go to any church, but if I wanna

Chrissy:

go I think, generally are

Craig:

Oh, they're they're all pretty

Chrissy:

Very nice.

Paul:

Most part

Craig:

are nice.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah. They Like, the people that I've met along the way, they're very family oriented.

Craig:

Yeah. Family oriented. Yeah. Nice. A lot a lot of a lot of them are successful.

Craig:

It's a network. They do network.

Paul:

A lot of

Chrissy:

You know? Republicans.

Craig:

The all Republicans.

Chrissy:

Was gonna say Yeah. Very. Did you get raised Republican?

Paul:

Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

You were.

Craig:

Absolutely. My my dad's mom was a delegate in the Republican party at the convention, was high up in the convention for years and years.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

That's interesting. Yeah. I learned this from Jan.

Craig:

Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Tattled on me on you a little bit.

Craig:

That's alright.

Chrissy:

So are there any Mormon values or habits that you still I mean, obviously, you don't practice the church goal, like, all the time, but that you carry with you on a daily basis.

Craig:

Oh, I think just

Chrissy:

And when did you kind of leave the church? At what age did you just like, I'm done?

Craig:

No. I think after my after my first divorce.

Chrissy:

Oh, okay.

Craig:

Yeah. It was kind of it was pretty difficult.

Chrissy:

So that was not Hannah's mom, So I did not know you there was another wife.

Craig:

Yeah. No. I got married right after my mission. I went on a mission.

Chrissy:

You were you were a missionary?

Craig:

I went to that was my first time in Europe. I was there. I spent two years.

Chrissy:

Oh, so was you Yeah. We'll get to that.

Paul:

No. But but

Craig:

it was so so yeah. So

Paul:

Fucking story time. Yep. I could tell you. I could

Craig:

tell you. Sorry. I I mean, I I literally the only reason I went was I moved out of the house at 17.

Chrissy:

K.

Craig:

I was not a good kid. Moved in with my girlfriend and her family in Nevada.

Chrissy:

So you weren't a typical Mormon kid? Or were you a typical?

Craig:

No. Not at all.

Paul:

Still not. Typical anything. There's another story of my life. Not typical. My

Chrissy:

picture or you're told or you're led to believe that the Mormon kids, you know, they don't drink, they don't swear, they don't have sex before marriage. I mean, that's all part of the religion.

Craig:

That's what

Paul:

they talk about. Like a fucking prison. But but it's but, you know,

Craig:

it takes

Chrissy:

all time.

Craig:

It takes all times. You know?

Chrissy:

So I

Paul:

think I fucking broke every single rule.

Chrissy:

And from what I feel like the guys get away with a lot more

Craig:

I think it's both both ways.

Chrissy:

Does it? Okay. Yeah. So how long were you married to your first wife then?

Craig:

Well, we were

Chrissy:

Was she a Mormon too, I'm assuming? Yeah.

Craig:

For, what was it, twelve years?

Chrissy:

Twelve years, you were?

Craig:

We moved around. We I was changing jobs a lot at the time. And so we were in a different area. So so I went to college and she did not like I I got a job working in in Idaho at a at a again, was working with kids up in the mountains for summer in between the semester.

Paul:

That sounds badass.

Craig:

And they they gave me a trailer to live in so she would be able to come up there. You know, we're living in a small town. And all of a sudden, she I get woke up one day, and she was gone.

Paul:

And Shut up. She took

Craig:

back to California. Fuck. And I'm like, I'm sitting in the mountains. Nope. I'm sitting in

Paul:

the mountains going for West. So then

Craig:

I had to go back to town because I had my apartment there. So so then I fought I ended up quitting that job and then followed her back to California. Yep. And I went back into construction, working for construction. Then my

Chrissy:

Did you get back together then

Craig:

in Yeah. Got back together. And then I I got out of construction. I didn't wanna work construction. I didn't know how I felt myself doing So I got a job at a horse ranch, and then they finally I was broke.

Craig:

Didn't have any money. Yeah. But they gave me a house to live in, so then we were

Paul:

able Nice. To move into the

Chrissy:

What's your wife?

Craig:

So that was the whole yeah. Okay. Then and then from there, I went to Georgia. Managed the place that the with the place that I worked for leased Kenny Rogers place in Georgia. So then we were moved again.

Craig:

That was five years later later, so we moved there.

Chrissy:

How did you manage to not have kids with her? And being because it's not part of the Mormon thing.

Craig:

There was Yeah. There she had some infertility issues and stuff.

Paul:

So were

Craig:

talking about adoption and all that. So then I went from Georgia to a job in Wisconsin, so and it was another change. So every time we'd start to have problems, I was changing locations. So it was like starting over. And then finally after in Wisconsin, I was working for the Wrigley family there.

Craig:

And and finally, that was it. I had I had had enough, so we went our separate ways. And then I ended up coming here and getting a job here in '92, '91. Okay. And and that that then but from the time I went to Georgia, you know, I didn't have anything to do with the church.

Craig:

Okay.

Chrissy:

So mid twenties? Yeah. Late twenties?

Craig:

Yeah. Okay. Cool.

Chrissy:

You did not know all

Paul:

of this stuff. I know.

Chrissy:

I love doing this just because

Paul:

I Right. Because you just find out so much random shit that he never knew.

Chrissy:

Long time. I didn't know half this.

Craig:

No. I know. There's a yeah.

Chrissy:

Because you just don't you

Paul:

know? No. Right.

Chrissy:

Nosy and be like

Craig:

I've watched all of them. I know. I've been I did my homework.

Paul:

Like, I know what I'm coming into.

Chrissy:

So we're gonna start with week two.

Craig:

K.

Chrissy:

Which is Sun Cruiser pink lemonade. It's vodka lemonade mix.

Craig:

Sounds delicious.

Chrissy:

Time we were. Now we're doing the lemonade.

Craig:

It's 400% alcohol.

Paul:

It comes in

Chrissy:

an eight pack and sells for $22.89.

Paul:

I love all alcohol.

Chrissy:

Gluten free. And it also comes in a variety pack as well and has a 100 calories. So Put him on a diet again. Yep. Last we did Crystal Light lemonade drinks.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Those are good, though, but 3.8% alcohol.

Craig:

Because I guess This is this is for the pontoon.

Paul:

Dude, every fucking every Ataboat. Yeah. Ataboat. You already knew it. Ataboat.

Paul:

You already knew it. You must you've listened to No. That's what he just said. Yeah. Yeah.

Paul:

On a boat. Oh, it's a 100% on a boat.

Chrissy:

Nom. Definitely good.

Paul:

Yeah.

Chrissy:

Delicious.

Craig:

I'm in.

Paul:

Oh, white girl wasted by the pool. Fucking sign me up.

Chrissy:

Now it's. Yes.

Paul:

Yeah. Their

Chrissy:

tea was their tea was what Sarah said tasted like armpit.

Paul:

Really? Yeah. I fucking kinda wanna fucking try it now.

Craig:

This is so good.

Chrissy:

It wasn't good.

Craig:

I'm just telling. Really? That's good, though.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Well, that other fucking like tea.

Paul:

So That other tea that we just had was fucking bomb as fuck.

Chrissy:

Yeah. That one was good.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

That was delicious. I no bubbles again.

Craig:

Oh my god. I love the no bubbles.

Chrissy:

12 ounce serving comes what did I say? It comes in an eight pack.

Craig:

Cool. Yeah.

Paul:

That's

Chrissy:

I give that a 10.

Craig:

That's healthy.

Paul:

Yeah. I'd buy that

Chrissy:

for sure. What do you give it?

Craig:

I'd give it a 10.

Paul:

Yep. Yeah?

Chrissy:

Yep. Good job, Sun Cruiser.

Paul:

Yeah. That's fucking delicious.

Chrissy:

That's Angela's stuff. Right? Yes.

Paul:

Like you said, on a pole near the pool, fucking anything, though.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And it's just light. Yeah.

Paul:

Can do 30 of them.

Chrissy:

Yeah. So we're talking about winter in this winter in the Southwest, basically, is kinda where what time are you done traveling? What time of year?

Craig:

Well, you know, my since since my I've got a place now. You know, my mom's Your mom's house.

Chrissy:

Where in your country?

Paul:

St. George. Oh, I was just gonna say

Craig:

It's right on the right on the Arizona, Utah border where there's a strip called the Arizona Strip.

Paul:

Yep.

Craig:

And then we're only 20 miles from from there, we're only 20 miles into

Paul:

It's whole

Chrissy:

far is that a oh, okay. So you're not even anywhere near, like, Salt Lake City?

Craig:

No. I'm about four hours south

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

Salt Lake City. But, so anytime from November, depending on where I'm at in November.

Chrissy:

Yep.

Craig:

I'll stay, I'd go to Salt, I'd go back to St. George in in November. It'd be okay. It's fine. I'd be there, you know, I'm I'm going

Paul:

there in November.

Craig:

Oh, it's still 70.

Chrissy:

Is it?

Craig:

Oh, yeah. And that's the best time to go side by side and spend your time in the Yeah. You know, is kids are back to school

Chrissy:

Yep.

Craig:

And get up to Zion. You can do all those things. It it's

Paul:

not overcrowded. It's Right. I can enjoy yourself. I really want enjoy it. So I wanna

Craig:

get back, you know, for October, November. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Where is that from, like, Moab then?

Craig:

Oh, Moab's Moab's a couple hours away. Okay. Zion's like, I can be in I can be in Zion on my bike. I can be in Zion in thirty five minutes

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

If I don't hit the lights right.

Chrissy:

Yeah. So you're kinda I'm what what I'm picturing is down by, like, four corners then.

Craig:

No. It's it's like you're in a if you leave out of Vegas and you head north Mhmm. You run right into Saint George.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

So it's just straight up

Paul:

from Vegas. Up there. Okay.

Craig:

Yeah. Gotcha. 4 Corners, I mean, it's not far. I mean, I was I spent a one I spent two weeks down by the Grand Canyon Okay. Which is not far from my house.

Chrissy:

But What a nice spot.

Craig:

And then I then I tried to get out of there. Like, I got out of there at the perfect time in this year.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Craig:

It was Father's Day. I left on Father's Day, June. And it was just starting to get really, really hot. Was it? It was a 110.

Craig:

It's What

Chrissy:

does it get like out there in July? A

Craig:

115.

Paul:

Is it really?

Craig:

Yeah. Now if you get up to Salt Lake Go up there. Up to Cedar like, Cedar's not that far where they have a snow mountain or skiing and all that kind of stuff. That's only an hour and a half from the house. And if you get up into Zion, it's not as quite as hot.

Craig:

You're up at a higher elevation. But you get down in the valley there, it's yeah. You're a 100.

Chrissy:

So other than obviously your friends in Minnesota Yeah. There anything else that you could miss about not being here?

Paul:

Oh, no. You know,

Craig:

I yeah. I actually, when I I jumped on the bike, when I got to back up into into Minnesota, the first day, I just took off. And I was like, going down on the river road.

Chrissy:

Yes.

Craig:

And I'm like hitting it and from the I stayed I ended up staying at the casino. Yeah.

Chrissy:

I've seen that.

Craig:

So so I left the casino and I take off on the road towards back down towards 61. I'm on the bike and I'm like, god, I miss riding in Minnesota.

Paul:

Oh, really?

Craig:

I really, really, the green, the corn is high, everything is really lush right

Paul:

You got a lot of rain.

Craig:

You got that breeze going, you know, you're not blistering hot.

Chrissy:

You've come back at a

Paul:

Perfect time. Yeah. Not humid.

Craig:

No. It's and I and I've then I got across the river, and I'm going on the Wisconsin side. Oh. And I'm just cruising on 00 or whatever

Paul:

those are. And they're Double o, double m, double a. It really reminded me of kind of Vermont

Craig:

and stuff. It's and I don't get the green. And I I guess I I didn't appreciate it as much and Yep. But I did this time.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And that's the

Craig:

I think there's some great motorcycle roads here that we don't

Chrissy:

And you were down in the area where the best.

Craig:

Yeah. Like Southeast here. Yeah. It really is. The southern part of Wisconsin and Minnesota along the We

Chrissy:

talked about that. Oh. That's reason they well, last time when Brandon was here, like, those are, like,

Paul:

five feet, like, that are on blocks. Yep. I we pulled we was

Craig:

pouring down rain going out of Alma a few week a few days ago, and I didn't give a shit.

Chrissy:

Yep.

Craig:

You know?

Paul:

I got my little helmet on, I'm just riding in the rain.

Craig:

Riding in

Paul:

the rain with the monkele ball. Yeah. Love that place. Too, man. They got great food, and

Craig:

the people are friendly. And yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. The old timer that I knew down in from the Bonhoe family, he just passed away.

Craig:

I was with you guys. I met him.

Chrissy:

Yes. Jembell. He just passed away two years ago. Yeah. Two years ago.

Chrissy:

Yeah. But yeah.

Craig:

You may might stop in

Chrissy:

or have know all the roads and all the places that I've ever been to down there through him. So he would we would go down there once or twice every summer. He'd go with Jim was alive. It started, and then Mike got to meet him too, and you as Yeah. And Paulie's Yeah.

Chrissy:

As well. So yeah. All the roads down there that we were ever that I ever experienced were through him. Yeah. So I couldn't even tell you how to get back half

Paul:

of

Chrissy:

the Oh,

Paul:

I know. You're right. I get it. It looked

Chrissy:

like the back of his hand, though. You know?

Craig:

I think I think I went down with you guys the first time I you introduced me to the lock bar, that little bar on the

Chrissy:

On the on

Paul:

the the water. On porn?

Craig:

Yeah. The porn was The

Paul:

porn was the

Chrissy:

Were

Paul:

before you you hurtful? Went well? I don't know. That boat that you're talking about that we walked out of? Yeah.

Paul:

Yeah. I was on there. I've been there. Yeah. But I don't And all we had was porn.

Paul:

All you

Craig:

could get was was one kind of beer and porn.

Paul:

Yeah. Right. It's not a bar.

Chrissy:

We're like Black

Craig:

and white TV. One was black and white, there was a color one.

Chrissy:

No? Yeah. Like, Shannon. Shannon Abram was one of those. And he's like, It's fucking porn.

Paul:

Get on there.

Craig:

That was funny.

Chrissy:

It was

Craig:

And I've I've I've been there twice.

Chrissy:

We were like, this is why Jamel

Craig:

likes to your shoes. With on our on our way to your thing in Wisconsin, your wedding the wedding party.

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Paul:

So I was with

Craig:

I think it was with Jake and Jeff. Oh, okay. There. That was the second time I was there, and I've never

Paul:

been able to find it.

Craig:

I was looking for I was looking for it this time. I'm not sure if

Paul:

I knew. Who even

Chrissy:

knows if it's there?

Craig:

I don't know. Don't know.

Chrissy:

Or we suck. I don't know.

Craig:

That was funny. Times there

Paul:

was fun. Out there. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Oh, I mean, talk about in Wisconsin side too. Just tiny little hole in the bar. Yeah.

Craig:

Absolutely. Just some

Chrissy:

of the

Paul:

most bomb ass bars you'll ever

Craig:

The best. Ever

Paul:

fucking visit. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Like, the one that Hanks Hanks

Paul:

What's that frog one? And the one with all the boots too?

Chrissy:

That's the one.

Paul:

Oh, the

Craig:

with the boots and

Paul:

the overlook?

Chrissy:

Yep.

Paul:

Oh, fuck. That place is sick.

Chrissy:

It's oh god.

Paul:

Have no idea what it's called.

Chrissy:

Hold out something.

Paul:

I don't even know how to get there or what town it's in or nothing.

Chrissy:

Cool. Yeah. I couldn't

Paul:

find it.

Craig:

Right?

Chrissy:

But we both know what we're talking about.

Paul:

Yep. Yep.

Chrissy:

So you kind of told me your favorite destinations in Arizona as far as riding and stuff, but where's your favorite place to go in Utah?

Craig:

I I I think no. Utah is Utah is probably the my favorite is would be around They don't have Hellenic in there either.

Chrissy:

Right? No.

Craig:

Around the Zion, the any anything to do anything from from the border all the way up to Highway 70. K. All the parks are in there. All the five the the five major ones are in there. So in Utah, that that'd be the place.

Craig:

In Arizona, I think some of the best riding is around Sedona, the White Mountains, Prescott. Prescott. All in that air. All in that air. All in that air.

Craig:

Flagstaff. All those truckers. Yeah.

Paul:

Screwed. Yeah. Yeah. FedEx. I saw thought the best of patients aren't

Chrissy:

doing more.

Craig:

Oh, they try. Nice. Oh, they they try. They're they're always trying.

Chrissy:

They're not hanging people over balconies, though.

Paul:

Not not trying not to.

Chrissy:

Or have moff

Paul:

He's like, I don't know what you're

Craig:

talking about. Yeah. It yeah. There's always angles they're trying to trying to get into.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Because those are, like, huge national worldwide company. Crazy. Yep. I'm just shocked.

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